Zineception #5 : Emilie and Andris – Value Of Words fanzine

By Tieuma


It’s been a while, since I posted the last issue of this serie. For once, it’s a not a linked to any lack of motivation. Or at least not mine. I asked a couple of people to be part of this, and they never gave me any answer, so I had to wait for anyone to give me a little bit of attention. It does sound a little bit weird said like that.

Our guests for today are Emilie and Andris, writing for Values Of Words fanzine. An international collaboration since they’re both at a different end of europe, respectively Sweden and Hungary. They just put the second issue recently, go grab one !

I also changed the formula of this serie, for multiple reasons, hope it won’t bore you to death.


Boston 1

DxR : Who are you, both of you? How old are you, what are you doing for a living, what are your passions, favorite bands, shoe size, pets name, favorite Tv shows, you know, whatever you wanna tell me.

Emelie: Hi there! I’m Emelie, 20 years old, living just outside of Stockholm. As for now, I’m currently unemployed applying for jobs most of my time while also making up for some lost university grades. Otherwise I put up shows with my crew Thousand Strong, being stupid at hardcore-shows, play in two very new bands and am a co-writer in Value of Words fanzine. I’m a sucker for bands that sounds like 86 Mentality, The Office (US), traveling and desserts (vegan of course).

Andris: Hi Tieuma! I am Andris, 28 years old from Hungary. I work and live in Budapest. I don’t really have a lot of free time because of my job. I have a black cat but I only meet when I visit my parents. I like traveling and go to hardcore shows, meeting new friends. Last year was the first time for me outside of Europe when I went to Boston Edge Day and a week after went to Toronto for Not Dead Yet fest. This was one of the best trips of my life! I like vegan food and cooking but I’m only vegetarian. I like the bands that are in our fanzine but I can recommend you some new bands from Hungary worth checking out: Wroongg, Gross Out, Touch, Contra and Exterminating Angel.

DxR : Who is doing what in the zine ?

Andris: 50-50%! I mean I usually work on the questions but I always ask Emelie what she thinks about them. And she tells me her opinion and we change it if needed. So it’s a bit hard to say who’s doing what. I asked her which bands was her favourites playing Edge Day and she told me 5-6 bands that she likes and a few of them was on my list too. So it’s easy to do it with her. She’s got a really cool music taste!

Emelie: Yeah, like Andris said, it’s 50/50. We try to have bands we both like, Andris usually do the baseline for the questions and then we adjust them a bit, maybe add some new ones and so forth. Andris is the one who has contact with the bands we interview, either through email or grab them on tour. Then it’s my turn to write the interviews down and then do all the revision. As far as putting together the zine we collab on that as well, giving our inputs on what pictures to have and where.

DxR : How did you meet and what were the conditions of your encounter?

Andris: I had been to Sweden several times in the past. I really liked the Swedish hardcore scene, and the hardcore shows there was so sick, not like in Hungary. I remember when I first saw Hårda Tider in Gothenburg (Law and Order fest, around 2010). They were so energetic and so amazing! Other bands on the bill was Commitment Crew and Stay Hungry. So sometimes I just travelled to Sweden to see my favourite Swedish bands and they always played great shows! I think I saw Hårda Tider 10-11 times.

Emelie: So, we first met 23/4 last year at a hardcore-show I put up with Thousand Strong. It was the pre Alive & Well show w/ Survival, Insist (both UK), and the locals Neighborhood, Miles Ahead and Give Today. Andris was coming over for the main show the day after and decided to drop by the pre-fest, and so there we met. Andris brought our first issue of the zine in physical copies too, so that was exciting!

Andris: Yeah, that was a really great show! And the second time we met was in Boston.

Boston 2

DxR :  Why doing a fanzine together while you live so appart from each others ?

Andris: When I first thought about doing a zine I wanted someone that could help me. I knew I wanted to do a bigger fanzine, and I wanted to choose someone from another country but with similair music taste, yet sometimes different. And also someone younger than me. So I figured, since I’m a big swedish fan, and I knew Emelie 1 or 2 years ago, I asked her. And she was on it!

Emelie: I’m mean, why not? Personally I didn’t even thought of the distance between us when Andris asked me if I wanted to do the zine with him. I just went for it and didn’t think twice about us not living in the same country. Most part of a zine can be done through a computer anyway so I thought it would work out nicely. As long as you communicate with each other and makes sure every part involved can speak their minds you’re good to go. So I guess I don’t see the distance as a hindrance. For me the important part is to occupy my life with things that I care about, and hardcore being one of them, it feels nice to be able to contribute to it in a new way.


DxR :  Which fanzines inspired you for Values of Words?

Emelie:This one’s Andris’ question!

Andris: For me definitely the Effort fanzine was my biggest inspiration. It’s a Swedish zine from Ulf Hammarkarr and Kalle Garmark. I really liked the simple design, spine, black and white and of course reading about my favourite bands. And when I was a child I liked the I Drink Milk fanzine. This was a youth crew fanzine from Hungary. Nowadays I read Hashtag Hardcore, Chiller Than Most, Will to Speak and Ill Informed.

DxR : Why is the second issue so much inspired by the Boston scene?

Emelie: From a zine-making point of view the whole idea of focusing on one area was to dig into a scene that interested both of us and experiencing it up front. So the whole idea behind the second issue was to go to Boston on Edge Day and interview bands over there while also experiencing the scene ourselves. We wanted to speak to all kinds of people being a part of Edge Day and really focus on local bands and people with different backgrounds, different contributions, with different perspectives on the Boston scene and get as much of a picture as we could. Also, I think the Boston scene fucking rocks. I mean, I’ve always gotten the impression that Boston has a really flourishing and diverse scene, with loads of high quality bands, great shows and history. And that interests me. Some of my favourite modern bands are from Boston, I always get hyped on a good live-video from the Boiler Room or the Hardcore Stadium and it’s a scene that I’m really drawn to. So it’s really hard to not get curious about a place like Boston.

Andris: Right! Boston has a really big hardcore scene and rich history. Many bands dream about playing there and many people dreams about going there and see their favourite bands. And still nowadays Boston have a lot of really amazing bands, and not just hardcore. The Hardcore Stadium is a legendary place and hardcore legends where born there, like the National Edge Day starting with Sweet Pete. Look where it is now, you know, the whole world celebrates it. Also, I saw No Tolerance in Boston and Europe, but the Boston show way crazier!!

Emelie: Yep, seeing No Tolerace in Sweden also gave me a foretaste to what it would be like to experience that on their home arena. So that was yet another reason to go to Boston, for sure.

at the first met

DxR : Do you prefer face to face interview or mail interviews?

Andris: I prefer the face to face interview! It’s more personal. But the truth is that we have done some really cool e-mail interviews. I think the best secret to a good interview is that you must know everything about your person. You can do the interview and make regular questions, but most of the time it will be a really boring interview.

Emelie: Hands down face to face interviews. To be honest with you, I suffer a great deal of social anxiety. But just daring to take that step and talk about music with people that I either look up to, or I just think is straight up cool people, gives me a lot personally. Also, it feels more authentic to stand next to the person that you are interviewing. Not only can you get that personal connection, but you can also notice body language and take in the passion for a certain question or topic. Also you get that feeling of the interview being more of a conversation rather than just a Q & A.

Andris: But with face to face interviewes it was really hard to have time for everything as well. I mean, we missed some good bands when we made some of the interviewes. At the first day for example, when we had finnished the interview with Jesse and went back to the show, Clear alredy played and we only saw the two last songs on their set.

DxR :  How many of your interviews are face to face ones?

Andris: In the first issue the only face to face interview is with Give. It was my first interview in my life and I liked every minute of it. John and Ian are such amazing people in hardcore. I liked listening to their cool stories. Actually, it all started with that Give interview!

Emelie: In the second one we knocked it up a notch. Stop And Think is the only email-interview from that issue, the rest we just grabbed the people at edge day and interviewed them. The Stick Together interview with Matt Hoodrack was done by Andris one week after Edge Day at Not Dead Yet fest in Toronto.

DxR : Are you satisfied with what you did ?

Andris: I don’t know if I can ever be satisfied. Of course I like what we have made together. But every time when I look it through I find small mistakes or something that I want to fix. Most of my friends tell me that we’ve done a good job so I just say, “Okay I need to be satisfied” haha.

Emelie: In hindsight, definitely! Like Andris I don’t think I can ever be 100% satisfied with the result, and in all panic doing the finishing touches you just feel like its all total crap. But now that I’ve been able to take a break from it then go back to it and read it with new eyes I’m really proud of the interviews that we made and the material we got from it. And I think that’s the most important part.

Andris: I made the posting part of the fanzine and I was really happy that people bought from all around the world. I’m really satisfied that people read our zines in Sweden, Norway, Spain, Japan, Russia, Kaliningrad, Ukraine, America, Canada, Germany, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Australia, Portugal, Poland, Switzerland, Belgium and Hungary. Only 70 fanzine left from the 250 second issue. So if you need one just write to us! The first issue is sold out but we can send the pdf to anyone who wants to read it! And I don’t care if you will print it out at home and give to your friends. We also made a t-shirt. A ’Snoopy Insted – Bonds of Friendship’ rip-off. 2 black for us and 16 white to sell.

t shirt

DxR :  What kind of positive outcomes does it have on your life to make a fanzine and be part of this scene in general?

Emelie: Like I said before, making a fanzine is a new way for me to be productive in life, do something meaningful that I care about. Hardcore is basically my life, my safe space where I can express myself, and being a part of that in any way possible is exciting. Through the fanzine I’ve been able to meet some really cool people, faced personal fears, contributed to not only the Swedish scene but to the international arena as well. So that’s pretty cool. It’s a memory for life.

Andris: I meet a lot of people who said „This was a great job dude”. My dad likes it too. But he can’t really speak english or listen or like the bands but I think he’s just proud of his son.

DxR :  Do you know the value of words ?

Andris and Emelie: „Value, can’t put a price on the thoughts in my head. Emotions, who are you to say my emotions are dead? Know me by name, but not by the words that I say. The difference to you grows bigger every day.”

DxR : What are your favorite records/Bands/shows ?

Emelie: Oh my god…where do I start haha. I’m mainly into the punkier stuff, The Abused being one of my absolute favourite bands from the 80s. That’s kind of my thing. Taking that into the 2000’s I’m blasting Ajax (NYC), Leather Daddy (Boston), 86 Mentality and almost every UKHC band on a daily basis. Recently I’ve had a thing for oi too, West Side Boys – Au Fil Tu Temps is probably my “most listened to” full-length this past half-year. But when I want to get down with something other than hardcore or punk I either spin Turnover-Peripheral Vision, since it’s hands down one of the best records ever made, or some old heavy metal record like Riot-Thundersteel or something. I’m just into whatever music that I get some sort of emotion from and that I musically feel a connection to. One of my favourite shows must have been when I saw Mindset late 2012 in Stockholm just because it was my first hardcore show. I was hooked from the start and I remember buying the Leave No Doubt LP and just listening to it for a month straight after that, learning the lyrics and the songs inside out. So Mindset is a band I hold up high as well. Also, seeing Battle Ruins two weeks was fucking amazing. Never could’ve imagine that ever happening. I could seriously go on and on about this topic, but I’ll just end here by stating that music is such a big thing to me that it’s hard to choose “one favourite____”. It all depends you know!

Andris: I have a record collection and my favourite record is The First Step – Open Hearts and Clear Minds 7” (cow) Livewire Records. I have loads of favourite bands dude! I don’t care about what people will say about it but I really like the Turnover – Peripheral Vision LP! I don’t know how many times I’ve listened to it on early morning when finish my job and go home taking the bus. That album can really touch me! And the new Union of Faith and Free demo is really amazing! About the shows, I saw Mindset 3 times this year and they are really an amazing band to me! And it was a cool trip to Berlin, Mannheim and Sheffield. And I also saw some other good bands like Insist, Primitive Life, Reflect and True Vision. These were the first three show where you could buy the second issue of Value of Words as well. When I met with people there most of them liked it. I remember back when I bought my first Effort zine (I can’t remember which issue) but it was the Floorpunch show in Linköping in 2010. I just saw when Ulf and Kalle walked around with a bunch of zines and showed their friends. When I got my hands on one issue I felt that this was something special.


DxR : What can we expect for the third issue ?

Andris: The next issue is on the way! Right now it looks like it will only be one Boston band and the other ones are European bands that both of us LIKE!

Emelie: Yep, and also keeping it simple, continuing on the straight-forward line, more straight edge, clean layout, hardcore, good bands and maybe something new!
Andris: You can contact to us via e-mail: valueofwordszine@gmail.com

 Thanks for your time and patience; Emilie and Andris.

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