I’ve wanted to interview Tim for some years now. It nearly happened in 2005 but then I guess we must have both got too busy with other things.
So I made a conscious effort to get in contact with him again and do it. Here is part 1 of what has turned out to be one of the most comprehensive Mouthpiece interviews ever published.
DR:Lets get into it… give us a bit of MP history. When did you start up and where? Who was in the original line up?
Tim with MP in 1995
TM: Essentially, Mouthpiece started out of a couple failed attempts to start a band in 1989. Jason Jammer was a kid I grew up with, went to school with, skated with, went to shows with, etc. We both did zines and were both diving head first into the hardcore scene, trying to get involved as much as we could. Pretty much the pinnacle of hardcore scene involvement was doing a band, so we made strides toward that. Jason played drums and we went to school with a guy named Dave that played guitar and was into hardcore a little bit (he had a Youth Brigade “Sound and Fury” record at least). I wasn’t very proficient at any instrument, so I was a proposed singer. Jason had also knew a dude named Jeff from his elementary school that he still kept in touch with, that played bass. I don’t think Jeff was into hardcore, but he knew the basics of playing bass. Jason brought Dave the guitarist together with Jeff the bass player and I believe those three jammed once without me. I’m pretty sure the jam session was just Jason explaining to Dave and Jeff what a song should sound like and then them trying their best to put it all together. The following weekend, I came to what was then considered a band practice, with lyrics in hand and a band name in mind. Jason and I were both Straight Edge and heavily into the whole Reveleation bands, so our plan was to do a Straight Edge band. I don’t believe Dave or Jeff were Straight Edge, but at the time they were just guys that could help us get things started, because we really didn’t know anyone else. We called the band Hard Line, which had nothing to do with Hard Line Records, which came together after us naming the band. We just wanted to take a Judge like stance on Straight Edge and deliver a hard, in your face type of message. We practiced one song called “Give It Up”, I spent most of the practice jumping around and stomping all over Jason’s basement floor. I had no idea how to actually sing, I screamed and yelled until I blew my voice out, which probably took all of three takes on the song. After that practice, the combination of us four never got together again.
Control at Practice
A few months later, Jason tried again to get a band started. I’m not sure what happened with Dave and Jeff, but Jason then recruited this local Straight Edge skater, Chris Schuster, to play bass. Chris had a huge half pipe in his back yard that was literally bigger than his house, so he was sort of a local legend type of guy. Chris was also a couple years older than us, so the combination of him having the huge half pipe, being a vert skater, actually being Straight Edge and having seen a lot of shows and bands like Youth Of Today, us younger guys sort of looked up to him. Somehow or another, Jason convinced Chris to join this band and they then recruited this kid Pete Reilly that lived a few towns over, was a little younger than us, skated, did a zine and was Straight Edge, to play guitar. As this was coming together, I assumed I was going to continue my roll as the frontman, but I think the bar was starting to get raised and after Jason, Chris and Pete started sitting down and listening to the Hard Line practice tape and hearing how terrible of a singer I was, they decided to get our friend Scott Palumcci to sing. Jason, Scott and myself were all tight friends, so the idea of Scott singing instead of me, bummed me out a lot, but because we were all such good friends, I supported whatever decision they had made. I figured if I couldn’t sing for the band, I could at least be friends with them and join in on the fun in that way minimally. They called the band Razor Sharp, it was a complete Straight Edge line up like we had wanted in the past. They wrote a couple songs, practiced a few times, but there was one problem, Scott was having a hard time singing loud enough in practice. Scott would write lyrics, be all amped up for the band, come to practice and sing very quietly and completely hold back all of his excitement that he would show prior to practice. When asked why Scott was being so reserved in practice and singing so quietly, Scott would just tell them that he was figuring things out, deciding how he really wanted to sing the song and more or less, singing to himself so that the other three would not hear his mistakes. This went on for a couple of practices and after awhile, Chris, Pete and Jason just came to conclusion that Scott couldn’t cut it as a singer, well maybe he could, but he wasn’t giving them enough at the practices to confirm anything or boost their confidence. Eventually Razor Sharp fizzled out and that was the end of that.
MP summer tour 1995
Not too long after the dissolution of Razor Sharp, Jason and Chris decided that they wanted to continue on in some form, but came back to me and asked if I wanted to take another stab at being the frontman. I was of course ecstatic about getting a second chance and at this point, the music that Jason and Chris were making together was actually pretty cohesive and coming together much better than anything in the past. I think Jason was becoming a better drummer because Chris was actually a legit bass player that pushed him and knew how to write and play hardcore. There was this noticeable maturation of musicianship that at the time, blew me away, because I was so use to us just being young kids that had no idea what we were really doing. After I agreed to do the band with Chris and Jason, they had this idea to try and snatch up this guitarist named Pat Baker, who was practicing with another group of local kids, but seemed to be going no where with them. Like Chris, Pat was a legit musician, a great guitar player who’s skills went way beyond the hardcore that we wanted to play, but we were hoping he’d take interest in playing with us regardless. Pat was into metal, punk and hardcore, but not really super into the hardcore scene, which to us meant, going to shows, buying records, zines, etc. He was also on the fence about about being Straight Edge. He didn’t really drink, smoke or do drugs, but because he wasn’t really all that into the scene, he didn’t identify himself as being Straight Edge. I remember Jason and I driving with Chris and picking Pat up from somewhere and us three really grilling Pat, asking him if he’d be down to commit to being Straight Edge, if he’d be down to make a real push at doing this band seriously, playing shows, recording, etc., and Pat was into it. I think we knew we had something that could be special here with us four and we really saw the potential, so we wanted to lock things up.
MP at City Gardens
By late 1989, early 1990, Me, Jason, Chris and Pat were practicing regularly. We decided to call the band Control and made it official by creating a logo (which I had just cut the word CONTROL off of an old SS DECONTROL flyer) and making stickers, which we would take with us everywhere we went and stick to everything in our path. The stickers had CONTROL with NEW JERSEY STRAIGHT EDGE underneath of it and this artwork of a Straight Edge looking guy with a hat on, Nikes and an X’ed fist. Somehow or another, making the stickers and getting them out there, really made the band feel real and relevant, we weren’t just some dudes practicing in a basement, we had an identity and we were physically getting our name out there.
MP @ Roxy, Hollywood 1991
Within a few months, after all the song writing, practicing and sticker making, we planned for our first show, this was the next step we had to take to make this band real. Pat had pitched the idea of doing a show in his mother’s basement, he had thrown parties there in the past and thought we might be able to pull off bringing in a decent crowd. Pat’s older brother was a musician guy that had a lot of friends and would probably be interested in coming out, Me Chris and Jason all went to school with each other and had a bunch of friends we could bring out, Pat went to a different high school than us, so he had his group of friends he could bring out. We also asked our friend Tony (who I had grown up with and did Common Sense fanzine with) if he had any other bands he knew of that he thought might be interested in playing with us. Tony suggested and contacted Rorschach who were also from New Jersey and were still a fairly new band. Rorschach agreed to play, so we now had what felt like a legitimate show coming together. I don’t recall whether or not we made actual flyers for this basement show, because in reality, it was just a big party being thrown in our guitarist’s mother’s basement, but I do know that we spent a couple of weeks telling everyone we knew about it. In the end, I know Rorschach couldn’t pull it off and cancelled a day or two before, so that left all the pressure on us. All things considered though, we brought out a decent crowd, I’m going to guess that there were 50-80 people that showed up. We played and a handful of our friends stood up front and sang along, which was awesome. What was also very cool was in the months prior, we had taped a few practices and our practice tapes started getting passed around locally a bit. So while we’re playing and our friends are up front supporting us, I heard a few people that I didn’t know, yelling out lyrics, which was both a monumental and mind blowing moment for me.
MP Brooklyn 2011
Eventually Control got our first real show out in Reading, PA at Club Unisound. We had a friend named Jason Bush that lived out in York, PA and went to the Unisound regularly. Jason talked to Jake, the owner of the Unisound and told him that he had these friends out in New Jersey that had a band called Control and he asked Jake if he could put us on any bills that needed a band. Jake agreed and contacted us and said he needed an opening band for an upcoming show he was doing for Insight from Salt Lake City, Utah. We all knew Insight from when they toured with Chain Of Strength and were big fans, so the opportunity to open for them was pretty incredible. We instantly agreed and were put on the bill. Unfortunately when the day of the show came and we got to the club, Insight had cancelled and it was us and 3 or 4 other virtually unheard of bands left on the bill. I remember one of the bands being a band from Baltimore, MD called Just Cause, who at least had a demo out. Either way, because there was no real headlining band, Jake put all the band names on pieces of paper, threw them in a hat and picked each one out deciding how the order of the show was going to go. We ended up being the headliner. It was really that simple, our name was picked out of the hat last and we seemed to get the headlining spot and respect just like that. I say respect, because when it was our turn to play, everyone stuck around and watched, most packed up front and a few kids were even stage diving. Things were obviously progressing for us.
Hardline’s one and only Practice
Again, a month or so went by and although we were starting to gain a little steam with Control, we ultimately felt like the name Control was a bit too generic. We were a Straight Edge band and generally had a traditional late 80’s Straight Edge hardcore sound, but we felt like a name change was in order. Our friend Tony (who I had mentioned earlier in regards to me doing Common Sense Fanzine with), was about to start work on a new fanzine and was thinking about calling it Mouthpiece. He looked at the name Mouthpiece as him using his fanzine as a Mouthpiece / spokesperson for a group, to represent and speak for the Straight Edge hardcore scene. We really liked that name and asked Tony if he would mind if we just use that name to replace the name Control. Tony agreed and that was it.
I think we found relevance in the name Mouthpiece because as we were doing all these bands and working to make all of this happen, the Straight Edge hardcore scene of the late 80’s was quickly falling apart and changing. The majority of the bands we loved were breaking up, people were dropping out of Straight Edge. While our intentions were to be apart of that scene and to play with those bands, by the time we were really pulling everything together with our band, we found ourselves to be virtually alone and looked at ourselves as a Mouthpiece for a scene that we felt was changing and falling apart.
MP Josh Grabells Basement 1994
As time went on, we would record one song for a comp that never ended up getting released, so in turn we sent that song around to a few labels to see if we could drum up any interest. New Age Records out of California was a strong up and coming label that had released records by bands like Pressure Release, Powerhouse, Turning Point and Outspoken, all of which were bands that I liked. Mike Hartsfield at New Age was working on a 7” compilation with bands like Drift Again, Turning Point, Outspoken, Counter Punch and Undertow and offered us a spot on the comp. We jumped at the chance and would go on to release two 7”s and one full length LP on New Age. We were also lucky enough to jump on a slew of great bills and play with a lot of the best bands of the era, all of which combination would help sculpt us into what we were.
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DR:What was the basic MP message/ethos?
TM: Well like I said, in the very beginning of starting the band, our main message and theme was to continue in the footsteps of all the Straight Edge hardcore heavy hitters that came before us. We wanted to put the Straight Edge message out there, without it being too corny or over the top. We really had to tread lightly, not to get mixed in as just another young, cheesy bunch of Straight Edge kids that would be here today and gone tomorrow. I think because of how we wanted ourselves to be represented, we ended up coming off a bit darker than the average Straight Edge band of the time. We didn’t exactly give off an overly positive, upbeat vibe or feel.
MP pomona 2011
Lyrically I dabbled with topics like the bleakness that resulted in drug and alcohol abuse, but I also touched on a lot of very personal subject matter. I wrote a lot about the personal experiences and situations I had been through, trials and tribulations with friends and relationships. What also became a very strong and overlying theme with Mouthpiece was how we sort of felt like we were the last of a dying breed, we were pushing on and trudging through while most of the others had moved on. We were what remained of the late 80’s Straight Edge hardcore boom and we were going to continue representing that, whether it was still popular or not. Through all the criticism and judgment, we knew who we were and we weren’t going to change for anything or anyone.
DR: Which bands were you finding influence from in those days?
TM: Well first off, I think our biggest influence musically was always Chain Of Strength. I know we all really loved the sheer power that Chain Of Strength delivered. Out of all those late 80’s Straight Edge hardcore bands, they were one of the big ones that we actually got to hang around with a couple times and I think their vibe really rubbed off on us. Their immense appreciation for early 80’s Boston hardcore like SSD and DYS and for DC hardcore like Minor Threat and Dag Nasty, always seemed so cool to us. They obviously loved a lot of the current bands of the late 80’s, like the Revelation bands, but musically they seemed to draw more of an influence form those early 80’s Boston/DC bands. That’s not to say that we didn’t draw influence from a lot of the late 80’s Revelation bands, because we certainly did. There’s absolutely no question in my mind that we would have never existed without bands like Youth Of Today, Judge, BOLD and Gorilla Biscuits. We also drew a lot of our influences from the late 80’s Southern California bands, like Against The Wall, Hard Stance, Inside Out and No For An Answer.
Aside from the late 80’s bands, I remember having a lot of respect and appreciation for a band like Outspoken who like us had grown up in the late 80’s Straight Edge hardcore scene and continued pushing that same theme well after many of their contemporaries had moved on. I also remember personally being very influenced by what Rob Fish from Release was doing in the very early 90’s. Rob had fronted one of New Jersey’s greatest Straight Edge hardcore bands, Release and after Release had broken up and many of Rob’s friends and peers had dropped out of hardcore and Straight Edge, Rob kept pushing it even harder. I really respected Rob’s spirit, he never let up and remained fired up and focused, even when it was clearly not cool to do so anymore. Eventually Rob started Ressurection and concentrated his attention on that, which in turn became his new release (no pun intended).
MP Seattle 1994
DR: Where did you tour with MP? Anywhere you wish you could have played?
TM: Mouthpiece was never really a big touring type band. For better or worse, we never really had any focus on selling ourselves, promoting ourselves or becoming a “big” band. The bottom line for us was that we just wanted to play good shows. Playing a small show in Kansas or the mid west in general while doing a full U.S. tour was never something that particularly appealed to us at the time. We were more about traveling up and down the east coast, hitting places like Boston, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, WashingtonDC, Virgina, etc. We then took that same idea to the west coast and started making trips out there, hitting places like Seattle, then Northern California and then all the way down to Southern California. We knew the cities that had big scenes and where the bands we wanted to play with played, so those are the places we concentrated on playing for the most part. There were exceptions though, we did play the first More Than Music festival in Dayton, Ohio and that was one of the greatest shows we ever played.
We also did eventually do a fairly substantial, three week, U.S. tour during the summer of 1995, which in a way was in support of our last 7”, “Face Tomorrow” for New Age Records. On that tour we started in Connecticut and worked our way down through New Jersey, Pennsylvania, WashingtonDC, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, then back up to Kentucky, Chicago and into upstate New York. That was really the only “real” tour Mouthpiece ever did. I think at that point, we realized that every other band around us had made touring a normal, everyday type thing to do, so we might as well give it a try as well. But again, still tried to focus on hitting very specific cities, where we knew there were vibrant scenes and we had good chances of playing good shows.
Whether or not all of that was a good move on our part or the smartest thing to do with a band, is sort of irrelevant at this point. We did what we did and handled our band the way we wanted to or could at the time and we dealt with the consequeces, which meant our popularity probably took a t hit when compared to other bands like us that made touring a regular occurrence.
As far as regrets or places that I wish we played, yeah I definitely wish we did a full European tour in our heyday. We had so many opportunities to make a European tour happen and for whatever reason, things always fell through. We had a tour booked where we were suppose to be the opening band for Slapshot in 1993 I believe and as all the final plans were being made, our guitarist Chris determined that he couldn’t get the time off from work to make it happen. That was the first real big opportunity that we had to bail on, but there were others that came in the following years. Ultimately these missed opportunites helped lead to the break up of the band.
DR: would have thought that it would have been inevitable that MP would get on Rev, but how did that come about? Who else released MP records?
TM: Well first off, other than appearing on a few compilation records, all of our original recorded output was released on New Age Records. We had our first four song 7”, then the “What Was Said” LP, then the “Face Tomorrow” 7”, all released on New Age. We were essentially considered a New Age band for most of our existence.
Mouthpiece broke up in 1996, then reunited to play a handful of shows in 2000. We again reunited in 2004 to play two shows with Youth Of Today. Around 2004 while we were preparing for the two shows with Youth Of Today, we started dabbling with the idea of releasing a discography on our bass player’s label, Livewire Records. At the time, New Age was no longer active and all of our records had gone out of press, so we liked the idea of gathering all of our recorded music and putting it together as one release. We started compiling our original recordings, photos, etc. for the Livewire discography release, but eventually things came to a halt and the idea seemed to die.
Then sometime around 2006 a good friend of mine, Larry Ransom who was originally from Buffalo, NY, but had moved to Huntington Beach, CA, was now working for Revelation Records. Revelation had distributed New Age releases and Mouthpiece was obviously one of those releases, so the crew at Rev was well aware of us. Larry had heard a conversation between a couple of Revelation employees about how our records were no longer in press and how Mouthpiece might make for a cool band that Revelation release a discography for. Larry happened to be out on the east coast, for a festival and was representing Revelation with a table of Rev releases at the festival and he and I got to talking. Larry knew that we had planned to release a Mouthpiece discography on Livewire, but mentioned to me that he thought Revelation might be interested as well. After a few conversations with Jordan Cooper over a Rev and things were confirmed, quite honestly, I was blown away.
MP NJ 1995
In my mind, there was really no other label out there that would have been more fitting to release a Mouthpiece discography, than Revelation. I had been such a huge fan of Revelation since day one. For a period of time there, release after release had been life altering. Warzone, NYCHC – Together comp, Sick Of It All, Gorilla Biscuits, Side By Side, No For An Answer, NYCHC – The Way It Is comp, Youth Of Today, BOLD, Chain Of Strength… the list goes on. Not only did these bands and these release sculpt Mouthpiece, but these bands and these releases helped sculpt and shape an entire scene that I wanted to be apart of. Revelation laid the blueprint for just about everything that was cool in my eyes. When I found out we had an opportunity to be apart of that lineage and fall into that history, there was nothing more I wanted for Mouthpiece. After all those years, Mouthpiece putting together a complete package of all of our releases for Revelation was the ultimate crowning moment
MP Brooklyn 2011
DR: When you guys started playing shows who was a regular on the bill?
TM: We played a lot of shows with bands like Ressurection, Lifetime, Vision, Edgewise, No Escape, Flagman, Bad Trip, Shelter, Burn, Turning Point to name a handful. Obviously there a ton more and probably some that I should be remembering that aren’t coming to mind, but for the most part, that first year or two of playing, a lot of those bands were on the bill.
DR: When did MP play there last show? And who was in the final MP line up?
TM: August 17, 1996 was our official last show. It was at the Princeton Arts Council, in PrincetonNJ with Ignite, Floorpunch and a couple of other bands. I remember we had been planing to break up and did a string of last shows and one day while I saw walking around the local mall, this kid Matt approached me and asked if he could do the real last show. We talked quite a bit, I remember thinking that he seemed like a nice kid and at the time, he gave me free range to chose the other bands to fill out the bill. I liked the idea that I could put together the bill, plus I liked the venue. It was super close to where we all lived, it all just made sense. After we confirmed and started working towards pulling some bands together, the kid Matt doing the show started telling me that he wanted to put his friend’s band on the bill and he wanted to put this and that band on the bill and next thing I know, I’m starting feel a little frustrated with how everything was really coming together. It’s not that I necessarily had a problem with any of these bands that the kid wanted to book, I just didn’t know them and had other ideas of who I wanted to play. Luckily Ignite was going to be in town and we were able to lock them up on the bill. I definitely wanted to get Floorpunch on the bill as well, but that became an issue. Apparently Floorpunch weren’t liked by some of this kid’s friend’s bands, which quite frankly, didn’t matter to me. There was this whole vegan warrior, mosh metal scene going on and I guess some of this kid’s friend’s bands were down with that scene and Floorpuch were not liked in that scene. I’m not sure that we were all that liked in that scene either, but since we were the headlong band, it was kind of looked over. So anyway, there was some head butting going on and it pretty much came down to me telling the kid doing the show that if Floorpunch weren’t playing, we weren’t going to play. Since flyers were made and time was running out, Floorpunch were allowed to play, but the drama didn’t end there. When the show actually happened, it was obvious that Floorpunch were getting the cold shoulder from everyone involved with doing the show. By the time Floorpunch went on, the mic mysteriously broke and apparently no one putting on the show had an extra mic, so I took it upon myself to drive 20 minutes back to our practice spot and grab the mic I used at practice. Now we had a mic, but it was really a practice mic and not meant for a live show, so the cord was really short. Floorpunch finished their set and somehow or another I believe a real mic showed up and was made available for Ignite and us. The show went off with out a hitch from there on out, but the mood was already set. Aside from it being super hot and humid, our set went over well. Unfortunately because of all the issues and drama leading up to our set, it never quite felt like a proper last show.
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As for the line up, it was me (Tim McMahon) on vocals, Jason Jammer on drums, Chris Schuster on guitar and Sean McGrath on bass. Our other guitarist Matt Wieder, had left the band earlier during the year ad moved to Louisville, Kentucky, so he wasn’t available to play those final string of shows.
DR: When did MP break up? Was it a joint decision? Did you feel like it was time and you had done enough with that band?
TM: It was really a combination of multiple things. First off, the last west coast tour we did in 1996, our guitarist Chris left the tour after the first show. Chris always seemed to have a hard time on the road, I think because he was a little older than us and had more responsibilities back at home, his mind was always on them. The year before, on the 1995 summer tour, Chris told us ahead of time that he couldn’t do that tour, so we had one of our old guitarists, Pete Reilly, fill in. Bottom line was, it was tough to rely on Chris when it came to touring or extensive road trips.
MP This Is Hardcore Fest
After the 1995 summer tour, our other guitarist, Matt Wieder decided he was going to move to Kentucky. Matt had been living in NYC for a few years and just sort of had enough of the city living. An opportunity popped up where Matt had a very affordable place to live in Kentucky and he was also offered to play in the band Guilt. Matt didn’t necessarily want to leave Mouthpiece, but there was just too much pulling him towards Kentucky, so he made the move. Once Matt left, the idea of replacing him just wasn’t something we wanted to do. We had gone through a number of guitarists in our 6 years of existence and we grew tired of it. For us to go on as a four piece was a possibility, but considering how tough it was to get Chris on the road, we just decided it was probably best to end the band.
The other matter at hand was that while on that 1995 summer tour, our roadie Ed McKirdy and I had talked a lot about starting a new band together. The plan was to have Matt Wieder on guitar, Ed on bass, me on vocals and we were hoping to talk Ryan Murphy from Undertow into playing drums for us. We wanted to do a harder, more New York Hardcore influenced band, something more in line with Youth Of Today. Something totally Straight Edge.
Unfortunately with Matt moving to Kentucky, he was not able to start this new band with us, but the seed had already been planted and as things were falling apart with Mouthpiece, the idea of starting something new was very appealing and helped push along the break up of Mouthpiece. So we played our last show August 17th, 1996.
DR: As for the MP reunion shows, did you get really syked about those and was it good singing MP songs again?
TM: The first set of Mouthpiece reunions happened in 2000. Mouthpiece had been broken up for 4 years and in that time period I had started Hands Tied. Hands Tied broke up in 1998, so through out 1999, I was bandless. For the first time in 9 years, I wasn’t doing a band and I was of course really missing it.
I got a call from Anthony Pappalardo about how In My Eyes were breaking up and planning one big last show in Boston. Anthony asked me if there was any chance of getting Mouthpiece back to play and help send them off. The plan was to do this big “Edge Day” show with all these Straight Edge bands, Ten Yard Fight, who had broken up, were going to play. Porcell was going to come and sing “Straight Edge Revenge” with In My Eyes, it was going to be huge and they wanted us to be apart of it. I was into it and like I said, I missed playing, so I didn’t hesitate to contact the other Mouthpiece guys and see if they would be down to make it happen. Luckily everyone was into it, so we made it happen. We also decided that since we’re going to be practicing and playing this In My Eyes show in Boston, we might as well make a weekend out of it and play a string of shows. We ended up talking to our friend Robby that booked a lot of shows and had him book a full weekend for us. We ended up getting more interest than we had anticipated and got more than a weekend’s worth of show offers, so we pieced together two separate weekends worth of shows.
There’s no question that I had a blast doing those shows. I missed singing those songs and having fun with my friends and everything about Mouthpiece still meant the world to me. We were all still Straight Edge, we all still loved hardcore, so it was all totally relevant. We weren’t faking anything and nothing was done half heartedly. My only regret about those shows was that I wish we had more time to practice for them, because in retrospect, we probably could have sounded better had we had more time to practice. Either way, it was still a great time and I’m glad we did it.
In 2004 we were asked to play 2 shows with Youth Of Today in Pennsylvania, so we made that happen. When one of the most influential Straight Edge hardcore bands of all time asks you to join them for a couple shows, you don’t say no.
Then again during the summer of 2011, Youth Of Today asked us to join them for a weekend’s worth of shows in California. We also played one show in WashingtonD.C. together before we left for California. Once we got to California, we played two shows in Pomona (southern Cali) and one show in Oakland (northern Cali). That entire weekend was a blast. The other thing about these shows, was that this was the first time that our old guitarist Matt Wieder joined us again. We practiced a lot for these shows and we all felt that we probably sounded better than we ever have, even compared to our first go around. These shows were also the first shows that we played after our discography release on Revelation, so there was a little more hype for these shows. We played two more shows with Youth Of Today in October of 2011, inNew York City.
A year later in October of 2012, we were asked to be apart of the Revelation Records 25 year anniversary show at IrvingPlaza in NYC. We of course agreed to play and once again, had an incredible time. Being a part of that entire celebration was a complete honor.